Evidence in the Wild
Evidence in the Wild is a podcast about how data and research really get used in education. Hosted by researcher and former college professor Josh Stewart, this show features honest, engaging conversations with educators, administrators, and policy folks navigating the messy space between evidence and real-world practice. It’s about elevating what works, questioning what doesn’t, and democratizing how we use data to shape the future of education. Josh can be reached through his website at https://rockymountain-research.org/ or joshua@rockymountain-research.org
Episodes

Oct 28, 2025
Oct 28, 2025
56 min
In this episode, Vernon Orndorff, superintendent of Park County School District 6 in Cody, Wyoming, shares how his district created the “Classroom to Careers” program. This K–12, district-led model of authentic, project-based learning is grounded in community partnerships and career pathways. The initiative blends state standards with real-world experiences like internships and outdoor projects, helping students see how their studies apply in practice. Through collaboration among teachers, businesses, and local government, districts can make learning meaningful and career-relevant without sacrificing accountability or academic rigor.
Curious to learn more? See how we’re advancing learning and research at rockymountain-research.org

Oct 14, 2025
Oct 14, 2025
50 min
This episode of Evidence in the Wild features a discussion with Aubrey Francisco, co-director of the Executive Function + Math (EF+Math) program, part of the Advanced Education Research and Development Fund (AERDF). The discussion explores how EF+Math has pioneered a new, equity-centered model of research and development in education. A model that connects executive functioning (the mental skills that govern focus, working memory, and self-regulation) with mathematical learning, especially for Black, Latino, and students experiencing poverty.Curious to learn more? See how we’re advancing learning and research at rockymountain-research.org

Sep 30, 2025
Sep 30, 2025
1 hr 4 min
There is prevailing pressure in education to deliver quick, measurable results. But do results from 1-2 years of implementation reflect the true potential of meaningful change? In this episode of Evidence in the Wild, I’m joined by Shelby Danks, founder and principal advisor at Arken Research. We discuss how real impact can often take years, not months. By emphasizing the value of detailed planning, logic models, shared vision, and upfront agreement on goals, we can avoid the cycle of “try, discard, repeat.” Schools are complex ecosystems where conditions vary widely, making one-size-fits-all studies inadequate. By celebrating small milestones and prioritizing long-term learning over immediate test gains, educators and researchers can foster sustainable improvement and avoid the trap of continuous, reactionary change.

Aug 26, 2025
Aug 26, 2025
44 min
In this episode of Evidence in the Wild, I talk with Greg Ponikvar and Dan Effland from Summit Public Schools about their journey with locally led research and development (R&D). We explore how Summit designs, pilots, and scales new efforts, what’s changed in their approach over time, and the lessons they’ve learned along the way. We also dive into some of the simple but powerful steps that support the process, like developing an R&D plan, creating protected time, and regularly reflecting on what went well and what could be improved, as well as how these practices show up in daily activities. Whether you’re a school or district leader, or simply curious about how R&D can drive meaningful change in education, this conversation offers practical insights into building sustainable, locally driven innovation.

Aug 19, 2025
Aug 19, 2025
23 min
AI in education research and development can certainly help us push the boundaries of what is possible, but what happens when AI draws on best practices from the past? Can it limit our potential? Can it encourage us to implement approaches that didn’t work? In this episode, I discuss the ups and downs of AI in education research.

Aug 12, 2025
Aug 12, 2025
18 min
In this episode of Evidence in the Wild, I explore the current uncertainty around accountability and standardized testing in U.S. education policy. With no changes so far in federal guidance on accountability, many are wondering… will testing mandates disappear? Will states be left to decide? Or will things stay the same… for now?As someone who’s long been skeptical of standardized testing, I find myself in an unexpected position of making the case for why some form of consistent measurement still matters. Without it, how do we track progress in literacy, math readiness, or intervention effectiveness?
That said, I fully recognize the downsides. Our students are tested more than ever, and I’ve experienced firsthand how these systems can fail the very students they’re meant to help. Join me in this honest reflection about what’s at stake, what we might lose, and where we go from here.

Aug 5, 2025
Aug 5, 2025
1 hr 25 min
In this episode of Evidence in the Wild, I sit down with Eric Mason, a seasoned education leader with experience spanning the classroom, district-level assessment, higher ed, and federal policy. Most recently, Eric served at the Institute of Education Sciences within the U.S. Department of Education.
Together, we explore the evolving landscape of education research, from teacher apprenticeship models to the complexities of root cause analysis in policymaking. Eric offers insight into where we’ve been, where we’re heading, and what it takes to move from hypothesis to impact.

Jul 28, 2025
Jul 28, 2025
17 min
In this episode of Evidence in the Wild, I explore two research-backed reading interventions that have shown strong results for students with dyslexia and those struggling with literacy: Pennsylvania’s Dyslexia Screening and Early Literacy Intervention Program and Reading Recovery.
I also reflect on how programs like these could have supported my own learning journey and why tools like the What Works Clearinghouse are essential for helping educators and leaders identify and elevate practices that truly make a difference.
Resources mentioned:
What Works Clearinghouse
https://ies.ed.gov/ncee/wwc/
Pennsylvania Dyslexia Screening and Early Literacy Intervention Pilot Program
https://ies.ed.gov/ncee/WWC/Study/86099
Reading Recovery
https://ies.ed.gov/ncee/WWC/Docs/InterventionReports/WWC_RR_IR-brief.pdf

Jul 21, 2025
Jul 21, 2025
13 min
In this solo episode of Evidence in the Wild, I explore one of the most common pitfalls in interpreting data, confusing correlation with causation. Whether it's linking ice cream consumption to shark attacks, or assuming a program "works" based on surface-level trends, failing to account for confounding variables can lead to deeply flawed conclusions.I share a vivid education example from a well-known randomized control trial of charter schools and explain how rigorous methods help us move from hunches to evidence. We’ll also touch on how these issues show up in everyday conversations, policymaking, and the research-to-practice gap.Read the full study referenced in this episode: https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/app.5.4.1

Jul 14, 2025
Jul 14, 2025
19 min
In this solo episode of Evidence in the Wild, I dig into the real purpose of logic models, and why they’re more than just a compliance checkbox.
I explore how logic models can serve as practical, actionable tools to help us define measurable milestones, monitor our progress, and stay focused on outcomes that are actually within our control. Whether you’re leading a program, managing a grant, or trying to make sense of your goals, logic models can provide clarity on what’s working, and what needs to shift.
🧰 Check out the IES Program Evaluation Toolkit:https://ies.ed.gov/use-work/resource-library/resource/tooltoolkit/program-evaluation-toolkit
Josh Stewart, Ph.D.Founder and Principal ResearcherRocky Mountain Research & Strategy🌐 rockymountain-research.org





